Comments on: The Bible vs. Rock Music, Fantasy, Sci-Fi and Role-Playing Games http://frankcreed.com/blog/2006/03/15/the-bible-vs-rock-music-fantasy-sci-fi-and-role-playing-games/ Musings about writing Mon, 12 Mar 2007 08:58:53 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: chris-------say http://frankcreed.com/blog/2006/03/15/the-bible-vs-rock-music-fantasy-sci-fi-and-role-playing-games/comment-page-1/#comment-17 chris-------say Mon, 24 Apr 2006 01:07:59 +0000 http://frankcreed.com/blog/2006/03/15/the-bible-vs-rock-music-fantasy-sci-fi-and-role-playing-games/#comment-17 It's a little different now that I have children. That being said, I try to get my kids in the secular world for that very reason. They will be facing it one day and I can only insulate them so much. But boy, do I want to insulate them. Those like suburbancat have taken their stand and drawn their line. That is great! I have too. I've read the Potter books and if someone (kid or adults) wants to have discussion, I can. However, it's NOT for everyone. Christian Romance novels are not for me; but lots and lots of people love them. That's wonderful! I can see that Christian Genre Fiction will be very touchy and strictly judged. It will be difficult for some to read it and for some impossible to accept it. However, I can see it as a wonderful way to draw people to Christ. I guess "do all to the glory of God." It’s a little different now that I have children.

That being said, I try to get my kids in the secular world for that very reason. They will be facing it one day and I can only insulate them so much.

But boy, do I want to insulate them.

Those like suburbancat have taken their stand and drawn their line. That is great!

I have too. I’ve read the Potter books and if someone (kid or adults) wants to have discussion, I can. However, it’s NOT for everyone. Christian Romance novels are not for me; but lots and lots of people love them. That’s wonderful!

I can see that Christian Genre Fiction will be very touchy and strictly judged. It will be difficult for some to read it and for some impossible to accept it. However, I can see it as a wonderful way to draw people to Christ.

I guess “do all to the glory of God.”

]]> By: SuburbanCat http://frankcreed.com/blog/2006/03/15/the-bible-vs-rock-music-fantasy-sci-fi-and-role-playing-games/comment-page-1/#comment-15 SuburbanCat Fri, 21 Apr 2006 20:25:06 +0000 http://frankcreed.com/blog/2006/03/15/the-bible-vs-rock-music-fantasy-sci-fi-and-role-playing-games/#comment-15 You pose some very interesting arguments here. I do agree that the media themselves, whethere it be games, movies, books, music, or what have you, are problems in and of themselves. There are both Christain and secular versions of each, and I, for one, love Christian fantasy and alternative rock. In viewing, listening to, and participating in these generes, though, I have one simple test: Philipians 4:8. "Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable - if anything is excellent or praiseworthy - think about such things." What we see, read, and participate in is the gateway to our thought life. One of our enemy's favorite weapons is to use past thoughts and experiences to bombard us with impure, selfish, and immoral thoughts, thus taking our minds captive. If we do not allow these things to be presented to us in the first place, they cannot be used against us. If we fill our minds with things that our lovely, pure, and admirable instead, there's even less room for the enemy to wiggle into our minds. As such, I personally refuse to watch movies like The Matrix or read books like Harry Potter for the simple reasons that they do not glorify God and do not fall under the guidelines presented in Philipians 4:8. Although I do not have children of my own, I have taught this verse to my grade-school brother and sister. My brother has since told me that he finds it a very effective weapon in spiritual warfare. You pose some very interesting arguments here. I do agree that the media themselves, whethere it be games, movies, books, music, or what have you, are problems in and of themselves. There are both Christain and secular versions of each, and I, for one, love Christian fantasy and alternative rock. In viewing, listening to, and participating in these generes, though, I have one simple test: Philipians 4:8. “Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable – if anything is excellent or praiseworthy – think about such things.” What we see, read, and participate in is the gateway to our thought life. One of our enemy’s favorite weapons is to use past thoughts and experiences to bombard us with impure, selfish, and immoral thoughts, thus taking our minds captive. If we do not allow these things to be presented to us in the first place, they cannot be used against us. If we fill our minds with things that our lovely, pure, and admirable instead, there’s even less room for the enemy to wiggle into our minds. As such, I personally refuse to watch movies like The Matrix or read books like Harry Potter for the simple reasons that they do not glorify God and do not fall under the guidelines presented in Philipians 4:8. Although I do not have children of my own, I have taught this verse to my grade-school brother and sister. My brother has since told me that he finds it a very effective weapon in spiritual warfare.

]]> By: Cathy West http://frankcreed.com/blog/2006/03/15/the-bible-vs-rock-music-fantasy-sci-fi-and-role-playing-games/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Cathy West Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:04:45 +0000 http://frankcreed.com/blog/2006/03/15/the-bible-vs-rock-music-fantasy-sci-fi-and-role-playing-games/#comment-5 This may seem a very simplistic view to some, but I had a wise friend who once excused herself from a discussion on predestination by saying,, "I love Jesus, Jesus loves me. That's all I need to know." Thanks for your email, it was very helpful! This may seem a very simplistic view to some, but I had a wise friend who once excused herself from a discussion on predestination by saying,, “I love Jesus, Jesus loves me. That’s all I need to know.”
Thanks for your email, it was very helpful!

]]> By: Terri http://frankcreed.com/blog/2006/03/15/the-bible-vs-rock-music-fantasy-sci-fi-and-role-playing-games/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Terri Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:58:03 +0000 http://frankcreed.com/blog/2006/03/15/the-bible-vs-rock-music-fantasy-sci-fi-and-role-playing-games/#comment-4 The problem with Science Fiction, Fantasy, role playing games, etc... never comes from the medium itself. The problem comes from the hearts that create it and the hearts that read it. The Matrix is a discussion point for parents with older teens (there's some seriously sexual stuff in the 2nd and 3rd movies), but I wouldn't call it wholesome. Everything in life is a learning experience. My children are young now and just entering elementary school. Our learning experiences are much simpler now than they will be later. But, teaching them that their friend next door only lives with her daddy every other weekend allows early exposure to the pain of the world and helps them learn the sad truths of modern day culture. The balance is to not teach them to be judgmental. It's definitely interesting raising children. Blessings! Terri The problem with Science Fiction, Fantasy, role playing games, etc… never comes from the medium itself. The problem comes from the hearts that create it and the hearts that read it. The Matrix is a discussion point for parents with older teens (there’s some seriously sexual stuff in the 2nd and 3rd movies), but I wouldn’t call it wholesome. Everything in life is a learning experience. My children are young now and just entering elementary school. Our learning experiences are much simpler now than they will be later. But, teaching them that their friend next door only lives with her daddy every other weekend allows early exposure to the pain of the world and helps them learn the sad truths of modern day culture. The balance is to not teach them to be judgmental. It’s definitely interesting raising children.

Blessings! Terri

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